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Friday, December 30, 2005
Just for wingers: Find the wiretap authority in Article II
Update 4, 8:51 p.m.: I'm returning to my bunker and abandoning my ongoing comment battle with AJ for the night. I've got better things to do than exhaust myself further in an argument where we clearly will never agree on fundamental principles. Anyway, I enjoyed it, man. Maybe next time we can place bets on how many corrupt Republicans Jack Abramoff will take down with him. 2006 is gonna be a blast...! Later on, my conservative brethren. Even if we think each other are morons, we're all still Americans. And God bless us all (except Dick Cheney...)

Update 3: Sweet Jesus, now they're citing irrelevant FBI surveillance cases (scroll down to Curt's comment) to justify the president's NSA spying. For the love of God, somebody get these people an encyclopedia! First of all, let's get a coupld of definitions straight. The FBI is a domestic law enforcement agency, which, by its very nature operates on U.S. soil. We're not talking about the FBI, which has also been surveilling Americans, but which is not the subject of the particular controversy unearthed by the New York Times... Here's the agency we're talking about:
The National Security Agency / Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) is the largest United States government intelligence agency. It is responsible for the collection and analysis of foreign communications and for the security of US government communications against similar agencies elsewhere. Established by a U.S. presidential executive order, the NSA works closely with the Department of Defense and is typically directed by a military officer...

Do you people not understand that different agencies operate under different statutes? If Mr. Bush had some probable cause to conduct a domestic law enforcement operation via the FBI, he STILL would have needed a warrant... We're talking NSA here -- essentially a component of Bush's military enterprise (which is probably why he used it instead of the FBI, to shield himself under the John Yoo cloak of "wartime powers") As for the Truong case -- the supposed legal precedent cited by Curt, Powerline and other desperate wingers in defense of Mr. Bush, ThinkProgress debunks this particular myth better than I could:

The Truong case was decided in 1978 — the same year FISA was passed — and did not deal with the FISA law. As the court noted right before the excerpt, "Truong dealt with a pre-FISA surveillance… it had no occasion to consider the application of the statute…” The Truong case dealt with the President’s power in the absence of a congressional statute. So the right is citing caselaw that predates the law in question ...

More relevant is the Katz case, which seems to be the prevailing caselaw relevant to our current mess, having been decided in 1980, two years after FISA became law:

Warrantless ''National Security'' Electronic Surveillance.--In Katz v. United States,151 Justice White sought to preserve for a future case the possibility that in ''national security cases'' electronic surveillance upon the authorization of the President or the Attorney General could be permissible without prior judicial approval. The Executive Branch then asserted the power to wiretap and to ''bug'' in two types of national security situations, against domestic subversion and against foreign intelligence operations, first basing its authority on a theory of ''inherent'' presidential power and then in the Supreme Court withdrawing to the argument that such surveillance was a ''reasonable'' search and seizure and therefore valid under the Fourth Amendment. Unanimously, the Court held that at least in cases of domestic subversive investigations, compliance with the warrant provisions of the Fourth Amendment was required.152 Whether or not a search was reasonable, wrote Justice Powell for the Court, was a question which derived much of its answer from the warrant clause; except in a few narrowly circumscribed classes of situations, only those searches conducted pursuant to warrants were reasonable. The Government's duty to preserve the national security did not override the gurarantee that before government could invade the privacy of its citizens it must present to a neutral magistrate evidence sufficient to support issuance of a warrant authorizing that invasion of privacy.153 This protection was even more needed in ''national security cases'' than in cases of ''ordinary'' crime, the Justice continued, inasmuch as the tendency of government so often is to regard opponents of its policies as a threat and hence to tread in areas protected by the First Amendment as well as by the Fourth.154 Rejected also was the argument that courts could not appreciate the intricacies of investigations in the area of national security nor preserve the secrecy which is required.155

The question of the scope of the President's constitutional powers, if any, remains judicially unsettled.156 Congress has acted, however, providing for a special court to hear requests for warrants for electronic surveillance in foreign intelligence situations, and permitting the President to authorize warrantless surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information provided that the communications to be monitored are exclusively between or among foreign powers and there is no substantial likelihood any ''United States person'' will be overheard.157
What part of "unanimously," "foreign powers", "warrant", and "required" does the right not understand???

Update 2: Forget the more charitable stuff I said about Strata, he or she can't abide those who don't agree with him/her, and is pretty much content to make sweeping statemens about "the Constitution" without a shred of support for those statements. What is it about the right that they'd rather make emphatic statements than actually deal with the facts? The Constitution isn't a Rubic's Cube, it's a pretty straightforward document. I read, re-read, and re-read Article II , and just don't see these self-evident wiretap powers Strata and others are so smugly asserting that every 10th grader is aware of. Take a civics class, people...

Update: My earlier snarkiness notwithstanding, Strata is a smart guy. But he (I think he's a he, though these days, AJ could be the new "Sydney") and other rightie bloggers are just plain making up this "Constitutional power that trumps FISA" thing. And how you apply "hot pursuit" entry into the home of a fleeing fugitive to three years of domestic data mining four years after 9/11, with no impending or just-happened crime to pursue and no plans to let the Congress or the Court in on the ongoing rationale, is beyond me... Next they'll be arguing that Bush can tap our phones in the same way cops can give you a traffic ticket before you've gone to court...!

Original post 4:01 p.m.: Come on, righties, show me the authority. I double-triple-super-secret dare you. Here's the entire text. I'll even get you started with Article II, Section 2:

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.
And while we're at it, here's the good old Fourth Amendment:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Now, for your reading pleasure, a look at just how lax the FISA law was regarding the above amendment, which raises the obvious question: why go around it, Mr. President?

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