Next up, the fact that you use the term “Democrat” when the actual word is “Democratic” means that you are probably a Dittohead, but most definitely a Republican, since those are the only people who use that term. (It’s usually polite to call people what they call themselves. Otherwise, we members of the DemocratIC party will start calling you guys Republics. Or Repugnant. Whichever.

Third, re how much you care about everyone’s freedoms. Play a violin behind it next time, because whenever someone says that, it usually translates to me as “I am a gun nut who doesn’t want to pay any federal income taxes.”

And lastly, whenever right wingers like you start spouting off about all the communistic, horrifying things that President Obama has done, I never find many actual communist-type incidents cited in the long, pseudointellectual diatribes they send (see Your Previous Comments.) So let me cite some specifics, k?

1. President Obama did not bail out the banks or AIG. That was done by a bi-partisan majority in Congress and the Bush administration, along with the Bush-appointed Fed chair, Ben Bernanke. If shoveling public funds to Wall Street is Marxist, than you’d better paint a red hammer and sickle on Dubya’s door. You did mention that you liked Dubya “most of the time.” What about THAT time?

2. President Obama did not tank the economy and turn a surplus into a massive deficit by cutting the taxes of the richest 4 percent of the country, nor did Obama risk the future solvency of our country on the insane neoconservative project of invading Iraq — a country which, I might add, had nothing to do with 9/11 and no bearing on America’s national security (see the part of the pre-amble that goes “secure the blessings of liberty.” The next two words are “to ourselves,” not “to whichever oil-rich country Dick Cheney and the psychotic neocons tell us we should invade.” Those two policies alone — the tax cuts which went overwhelmingly to the wealthy, and the two wars Bush started, account for the vast majority of our current account and long term deficits. See here:

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=3036

In fact, the Bush-era tax cuts constitute the SINGLE LARGEST CHUNK OF OUR DEFICITS. But then again, you right wingers don’t have a problem with deficits, so long as they are created by making rich people and big corporations richer.

So let’s get back to Mr. Obama. He so far has 1) upheld the Bush bailouts to the big banks, 2) bailed out the auto industry and, let’s see, what else … signed the Lily Ledbetter Act? In other words, with healthcare eating up his first year, the guy hasn’t done anything much, let alone swept across the economic landscape like a modern day Che Guevara. The right’s caricature of Obama is laughable, because in reality, the only big thing he has done is the stimulus bill, which essentially bailed out the states (including here in Florida) and kept teachers, cops and firefighters on the job, while providing the sole capital injection the economy has had in 18 months. Obama inherited a failed economy, produced by his predecessor and their eight years of robbing the treasury on behalf of their friends, including in the defense/war industry.

And yet, your side thinks OBAMA is the bad president?

Jesus, it’s almost like arguing with a potato.

And btw, telling me to “study the law so I can learn to pay attention to the specific meaning of words” or take a science course is pretty presumptuous and patronizing for someone who purportedly is critiquing my civility. Maybe it’s because you’re “66 and own a small business and are a single dad” that you’re kind of used to telling young gals what to do.

Have a nice weekend, and no, you haven’t damaged my sense of fair play. I live in America surrounded by right wingers and neocons. I have no sense of fair play.

1. I said: “This is NOT a political party thing (unless you consider the fact that the unlawful communism is being sponsored by the Democratic Party and tacitly supported by the complicit Republican Party bosses), but it is extremely destructive to our culture, our economy, and our future.”

You said: “It is YOU who are using “name calling,” when you label Democrats as “Communists/Socialsts, etc.” That happens to be a slanderous statement, and you repeat it throughout your comments.”

It doesn’t appear to me that I labeled any one or any organization as Communists/Socialists. Re-read my comments. I said the communism and socialism was being sponsored by the Democrats and supported by complicit Republicans. Having said that, if the shoe fits…

2. You said: “The fact that you consider Democrats to be commies, and that you insist on red-baiting, shows that you are a Republican, since that is the Republican tactic of choice these days.”

I judge people by their actions and by their colleagues. Talk is cheap, so Obama and the rest of the administration can tell us any sort of story and it means nothing. But their actions do mean something.

3. You said: “The fact that you’ve just shown up, and become a latter-day “patriot,” after eight years in which the president of the United States assumed dictatorial powers, with absolute SILENCE coming from you so-called “conservatives,” shows that you are, again, a Republican partisan, and not speaking on the basis of principle.”

Ah, you so clearly have no idea what you are saying about me. Just shown up? I was a patriot before you were born (with all likelihood). You also somehow believe I supported Bush in everything he did, and that just ain’t so. I judged Bush by his actions also. He did many things that only progressives do, and I objected when he did them.

4. You said: “All of that flowery talk about your “freedoms” is unimpressive to me, in that you only care about your “freedoms” when a Democrat is in the White House. You have still not answered my question as to why that is.”

Again wrong headed as hell. I live in America, and I care about everyone’s freedoms because I know that when you lose a freedom, so do I. One hand has to wash the other – we all have to win and keep our freedoms. You should also be very concerned about losing your own freedoms, because once they are lost, they are difficult to regain.

I don’t care what political party is in the White House – I judge the occupant by their actions. I liked JFK a lot, and view him as perhaps the last honorable Democrat President. I didn’t like Carter or Clinton – one was an idealist, the other a lying scumbag. I liked Reagan, and I liked Bush – for most of the time, but he did have the habit of loose steerage (like the open border situation, and the unstoppable immigration problem).

In light of this fairly extensive conversation, I suggest you study the law so that you can learn to pay better attention to the specific meaning of words, and take a political science course or two so that you can interpret other people’s statements and actions in a political sense.

FYI, I’m 66, own a small business, am a single dad, am back in college full time working on another degree, have lived in seven states and in Europe, and am politically a Libertarian.

Have a nice day. I hope I haven’t damaged your sense of fair play.

2. The fact that you consider Democrats to be commies, and that you insist on red-baiting, shows that you are a Republican, since that is the Republican tactic of choice these days.

3. The fact that you’ve just shown up, and become a latter-day “patriot,” after eight years in which the president of the United States assumed dictatorial powers, with absolute SILENCE coming from you so-called “conservatives,” shows that you are, again, a Republican partisan, and not speaking on the basis of principle.

4. All of that flowery talk about your “freedoms” is unimpressive to me, in that you only care about your “freedoms” when a Democrat is in the White House. You have still not answered my question as to why that is.

Ipso facto — you are in my opinion, nothing more than a partisan disguised as a patriot. So I’m not calling you names, I’m calling them as I see them. If I were to call you a name … well, that would be uncivil.

I write pretty clearly, and most people don’t have a problem understanding what I am saying or what I mean. Is your problem with what I am saying, or do you just not understand my words?

BTW, we can thank the communists, socialists, progressives, and all other left leaning groups for misleading the rest of the world by obfuscating the true meanings of their philosophies, as you are doing now. To be open about their philosophy would shut doors of opportunity – they tried openness and it failed. Now they use lies and subterfuge to get their power. Pretty telling about the validity of their philosophies.

The basic functional meanings of all of these groups is that they are centrists and believe in government control of the people without individual freedoms and individual God given rights. That’s why I have issues with centrists – I enjoy what freedoms I have and will not surrender any of them. To frustrate you even more, you should know I will attempt to regain lost freedoms and will develop new freedoms whenever possible.

Screw the state. I don’t work for the state – it works for me.

How’s that for simplicity? Do you understand me now?

As for the “battle for control of the American people” — where were you when your favorite president, George W. Bush, was introducing the most draconian domestic spying operation ever undertaken by a non-communist government? Where were you when John Yoo denied the constitutional constraints on the president, and declared Mr. Bush to be a “unitary executive,” which in layman’s terms, means a king? Legal and fair elections? We had one in 2008. Or do you only accept the “legal and fair” appointment of presidents by the Supreme Court, as happened in 2000?

Partisanship by any means necessary is incipid. You partisan Republicans will cook up any irrational reason to take down Democratic presidents, because in the end, you don’t believe in Democracy. You believe in one-party rule, and that party, is the GOP. It’s pathetic. And I suppose when the Tyrants from Texas return to the White House one day in the horrifying future, you will reverse every single one of your arguments, and the things you loathe today, you will wholeheartedly support because they are being done by your political party.

Good luck with that.

Having acknowledged that, it is clear that we have a division in America these days, and it appears to be the progressive, socialist, communist forces trying to drive out and destroy the freedom loving and law abiding conservative voice of the people. This is NOT a political party thing (unless you consider the fact that the unlawful communism is being sponsored by the Democratic Party and tacitly supported by the complicit Republican Party bosses), but it is extremely destructive to our culture, our economy, and our future.

I am extremely concerned with the outcome of this battle for control of the American people that has been waged on American soil for the last 100 years by the unlawful centrists. Our nation is legally a federated republic, and the states and the people are legally in control – why the states don’t do more on an official basis to control the feds implies the complicity is also rampant within the states.

Now it is up to the people to steer the country back on to a course of lawfulness and legitimacy – maybe it has always been that way. The elected officials hired to represent the people in state and federal government have been self serving and statist, and this is why the communists have been able to so easily penetrate our country – everyone in government has been bought off, and simply aren’t doing their constitutionally restricted job. Nobody in government has been protecting the republic.

So, this would appear to be a good time to fire the lot of the elected government in the voting booths – if we can get legal and fair elections.

Honest and fair elections are my next concern. These tyrants from Chicago have pretty well locked up the election process so that we can’t have legal elections anymore. See:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/23495809/Jon-Christian-Ryter-Forgot-the-Past-Here-s-the-Future