Medaite pretends Glenn Beck is distancing himself from ‘revolution’ talk

Medaite has this thing about Fox News (and Ann Coulter) … they kind of swoon over them, the way some of the geeky kids in the marching band have the hots for the football players who occasionally stuff them and their friends into lockers… So now, the site’s Glynnis MacNicol has convinced herself that FNC’s Glenn Beck is in fact not certifiably insane, and that instead, he is “distancing himself” from all that crazy talk about “revolution” on the right. Really? Glynnis starts by quoting from Beck’s reaction to anti-government terror pilot Joseph Stack:

We have no idea what this man’s ideology was…he could be from the left, he hates capitalism, he has an anti-business creed that goes on and on. It sounds like anything you could hear in a speech from Van Jones. When you read his anti-tax ravings and his anti-tax or IRS stuff it sounds like you could be reading bumper stickers off the cars or the signs of the Tea Party. We have no idea. But here’s the point. I have no idea if he’s left or right. Is he a communist or a radical constitutionalist. Here’s the point: it doesn’t matter. The guy is a killer.

And then …

Beck went on to compare Stack to Osama bin Laden and Timothy McVeigh and warned against rationalizing any of their actions: “I don’t like the IRS either, but I don’t kill people.” Taken all together it sounded to me like a bit of a shot across the bow to anyone who wants to suggest Stack is representative of a larger disgruntled populous.

Later, Beck took to the chalkboard and came thisclose to suggesting that President Obama is very close to allowing radicals like Stack into his inner circle, though he did manage to note that Van Jones “hasn’t killed anybody.” He also emphatically suggested that the country needs to “get away from anybody who’s calling for a revolution…whether it’s a Tea Party revolution or a communist one.”

Well, Glynnis, I think you’ve been had. If Glenn did indeed suggest “getting away from anybody who’s calling for a revolution,” he’s going to have to run far and fast, to get away from himself.

In fact, ever since Barack Obama got elected president, Beck has been lustily predicting revolution (more specifically, “depression and revolution.“) And he’s been doing so in a way that sure does sound like he’d be sympathetic to it …

More Beck on “revolution” …

February 2009, “Fox and Friends”:

In a visit Friday with the hosts of Fox & Friends, Beck even managed to terrify Gretchen Carlson beyond the degree to which she is normally capable of terrifying herself.

“What we are possibly looking at is something far worse than the Depression,” Beck began. “We are in much greater debt as individuals. We don’t know how to grow our own food.”

“We’re also looking at civil unrest all around the world,” he continued. “You need to prepare. This is something that could be … really dangerous. … My hands, now, for the first time in my life, are shaking. … We’re running out of exit ramps here.”

Beck’s greatest fear — which he suggests is shared by his friends in the military and the FBI — is clearly not the prospect of widespread poverty, hunger, or homelessness. Rather, it appears to be the notion that worldwide civil unrest could precipitate a civil war between what he calls the “bubbas” and the United States government.

Laying out a convoluted scenario, Beck suggested that the military is preparing for a situation where “something happens down on the border. You’ve got the rancher who is protecting his land, people are starting to come over … there’s a shot fired, it ignites things. ATF, FBI come in and arrest that rancher. How many people are going to say, ‘Wait a minute. … You people knew this was going on and you did nothing to protect us.’”

February 2009, The Glenn Beck Show on Fox (courtesy of Esquire):

At a time when riots are breaking out in Greece and Germany and protests are starting to spread across Europe, when even lady columnists for liberal New York papers have begun to express populist rage at the “kings and queens” who turned our public bailout money into private bonuses, the right-wing partisans who run Fox News think it’s a good time to fan the flames of violent revolution. “Let’s look at our first scenario,” Beck began. “It’s the financial meltdown. The year is 2014. All the U.S. banks have been nationalized. Unemployment is about between 12 percent and 20 percent. Dow is trading at 2,800. The real estate market has collapsed. Government and unions control most of the business, and America’s credit rating has been downgraded.”

His guests fill in the outline. Society disintegrates, people are ignorant and whacked out on drugs, they have nothing to lose. The “survivalist types that trust in America as it currently exists” lose faith and start developing “their own biofuel, that type of stuff to survive.” Mexico, which is already “this close” to being a failed state, tips over. And oil hits $5 or $6 a barrel. And the Gulf states start going under one by one. Then Iran gets a nuke and…

Beck cheers them on. “This isn’t a crazy scenario,” he says. The survivalist thing is “likely” to happen. The collapse of Mexico will lead to “a possible uprising here in the United States.” Then he turns back to the Wall Street Journal guy. “Real quick, how much are taxes in our scenario of 2014?”

“If we tried to pay for all of the spending we have done in just the last 18 months with higher tax rates, the Heritage Foundation and other groups have estimated that the tax rate at the top would have to go to 80, 90, perhaps even 95 percent, which means that 95 percent of everything you make would have to go to the government just to pay for what we have already spent.”

“And what happens to the people when you start taxing?”

“This is going to be violent,” another guest answers. “The cities are going to look like Dodge City. They’re going to be uncontrollable. You’re going to have gangs in control, motorcycle marauders. You’re not going to have enough police or federalis, just like Mexico, to control the situation.”

And when the Mexicans start coming across the border? And a rancher down in Texas or Arizona tries to protect his property and the ATF and the FBI come down and arrest him? “Some people will listen to the government,” Beck says, “but others — and I’m seeing it already — they know the Constitution. They know the writings of the founders, and they feel that the government, or they will in this scenario, and I think we’re on this road — the government has betrayed the Constitution. And so they will see themselves as people who are standing up for the Constitution.”

It could be even worse than the civil war, Beck gushes. And a somber guest reminds him that the Second Amendment is not about hunting. “The founders were very concerned about allowing individual citizens weaponry to defend themselves as a last resort against the tyrannical government.”

Beck pretends to be shocked: “I can’t believe I’m hearing this. And don’t get me wrong. I am against the government, and I think that they have just been horrible, and I do think they are betraying the principles of our founders every day they’re in office. But I have to tell you, this scenario scares the living daylights out of me because it is completely — it is shaking

April 2009, “The Glenn Beck Show” on Fox, after a right wing gun nut murdered three police officers in Pittsburgh:

Beck: Civil unrest for a number of reasons is coming. Lone nut jobs and people who are just angry and frustrated and have had enough. You’ve got to seek those people out. You’ve got to start asking people in your own neighborhood, “How are you?” And actually care about the answer.

Here’s Glenn Beck wearing a Tim McVeigh-style “tree of liberty” T-shirt

And Media Matters has a littany of Beck’s violent predictions and rhetoric here. A few lowlights:

March 2009:

Beck portrays Obama, Democrats as vampires, suggests “driv[ing] a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers.” Beck aired a graphic portraying Obama and Democrats as vampires and said, “The government is full of vampires, and they are trying to suck the lifeblood out of the economy.” Beck then suggested “driv[ing] a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers.” [Fox News’ Glenn Beck, 3/30/2009]

July 2009:

Beck: “There is a coup going on. There is a stealing of America”: “God help us in an emergency.” Beck stated that “there is a revolution, and they think they can get away with it quietly.” Beck further claimed, “At this point, gang, I’m not sure, they may be able to because they are so far ahead of us. They know what they’re dealing against; most of America does not yet. Most of America doesn’t have a clue as to what’s going on. There is a coup going on. There is a stealing of America, and the way it is done, it has been done through the — the guise of an election, but they lied to us the entire time.” He also said, “And they’re gonna say, ‘we did it democratically,’ and they are going to grab power every way they can. And God help us in an emergency.” [The Glenn Beck Program, 7/31/2009]

September 2009:

Beck: “This game is for keeps”; “[Y]ou can shoot me in the head … but there will be 10 others that line up.” Asking his audience to “pray for protection,” Beck claimed that “the most powerful people on the planet on the left” were “not going to go away easy” because “[t]his game is for keeps. This is who controls the United States of America and its destiny.” He went on to state, “Just pray for protection, please.” Beck subsequently stated:

BECK: You can try to put the lid on this group of people, but you will never silence us. You will never — you can shoot me in the head, you can shoot the next guy in the head, but there will be 10 others that line up. And it may not happen today, it may not happen next week, but freedom will be restored in this land. Period. And no matter what you want to call it, it is a totalitarian state that you’re headed towards. [The Glenn Beck Program, 9/8/2009]

Other people calling for revolution whom Glenn must now studiously avoid:

Erick Erickson of RedState:

At what point do the people tell the politicians to go to hell? At what point do they get off the couch, march down to their state legislator’s house, pull him outside, and beat him to a bloody pulp for being an idiot?

At some point soon, it will happen. It’ll be over an innocuous issue. But the rage is building. It’s not a partisan issue. […] Were I in Washington State, I’d be cleaning my gun right about now waiting to protect my property from the coming riots or the government apparatchiks coming to enforce nonsensical legislation.

Michelle Bachman (who is either calling for revolution or mass suicide, hard to tell which …)

Not to mention the so-called “patriot” movement and its tea party adjuncts …

So many people to avoid, so little time …

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